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January 26th, 2005, 08:59 PM
#21
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Yeha, Buddy as funk drummer...def. under-rated. I was listening to a track called "Space Shuttle" and it was a groove that was more like a loosey hip/hop/second line thing and he kept it pretty tight. when it came time for him to break it down a little bit, he did so in interesting ways rather than blazing chops.
First time I ever saw him was on Carson.
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January 27th, 2005, 03:12 AM
#22
Inactive Member
Blake,
Great playing on your website. You have the perfect ride cymbal on "inbe". What is that? Any way, very impressed.
As for Buddy, well to me he was my main influence early on. I played the "Rich in London" album until I wore it out. I was happy when I got to play some of those tunes in college. The day he died I was playing a college big band gig at a local high school. The band instructor asked me to play a solo in tribute to him and I felt like that was my way of paying my respects that night as well as being in the perfect situation to do so. Somehow I felt like that was more than luck for me to be in that situation at that time and I guess the solo affected other students in a good way as far as I was told.
Buddy was known simply as "The greatest drummer in the world" period.... while he was alive. No one may ever hold that kind of unified title in drums again. Of course don't get me wrong, Vinnie is the man these days and has been since the Zappa days but Buddy had a gift beyond belief and the world just accepted that he was un-matched in that gift. He could also be an ass from what I've heard but so can everybody at some point.
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January 27th, 2005, 04:53 AM
#23
Inactive Member
I was also fortunate enough to see Buddy play when I was a kid. What an inspiration! What a sound! I still have his autograph and great memories of those gigs. I remember being quite surprised to see what light sticks he was using. And always amazed at the seemingly endless flow of musical energy from that kit!
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January 27th, 2005, 04:44 PM
#24
Inactive Member
He evidently ran a tight ship, because it was his name on the marquee.
Buddy was a real bad-arse, no doubt.
Case closed. ;=)
Just glad I wasn't a "late/lazy" horn player... ;=)
<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ January 27, 2005 12:49 AM: Message edited by: fuseU1 ]</font>
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January 28th, 2005, 11:12 PM
#25
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For those who haven't tried it; watch a tape of Buddy on slow speed (for that matter try any great player). It will give you a lot of insight into breaking down his phenomenal technique. It's like watching slo-mo clips of a great athlete.
I heard the infamous tirade in the bus tape. The guys in the band probably deserved it. Yes, it was HIS name on the line and like any job it's the task of the underling to make the boss look (sound) good, so if they screw up they get their asses chewed. It does get a bit extreme to the point of being humorous though. I had an old friend that played bass for him for a short time who said Buddy could be very hard on players. He separated the boys from the men in that respect. If they couldn't handle it and take it in stride then they would find the door. "If you can't stand the heat..."
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January 28th, 2005, 11:58 PM
#26
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If Buddy demanded something from you, you best better deliver it.
When I work for someone like that, I love it. It is a CHALLENGE.
Bring on the challengers!
Look, there would be no Buddy and countless other drummers/bands if someone didn't challenge someone.
It's AMERICAN...well, also BRITISH too.
I'm sure if you made Robert Fripp look stupid there was hell to pay. Seriously.
That's what is missing from the Rolling Stone-endorsed music. No CHALLENGE...no toughness.
Anyone can play this crap that's on the radio.
Velvet Revolver with Matt SOrum has some intersting drum shit going on, but that's IT>
Where the hell is the next MITCH MITCHELL?
Anyway...I'm having a few brewskis after work...I'm venting.
Can you imagine a new Roli Garcia Jr. getting a chance on Leno???
Give the drummer some...SHEEEIT!!!
LOL
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January 29th, 2005, 06:56 PM
#27
Inactive Member
Ditto all.
Yeah, howzabout Jay [or Dave L] bringing Smitty [or Anton, or heck, Kevin FTM] over to the "passengers seat"...& give theim some 10-15 minute luv...yeah, right. How about SSmith...heck, he was in Journey FCOL; Vital [how about intro'g it as "his jazz side project" [img]wink.gif[/img] ], BUDDY's Buddies [that should get him a little mileage, right?!] [img]tongue.gif[/img] ...nah, he's too "musically-nerdy"...besides, then you'd have to interview all kinds of musicians, & we wouldnt want that...playactors only, please...[well, I guess a lot of musicians are too]... [img]wink.gif[/img] Oh wait, then there's Tommy Lee...
I think Weckl or SSmith [regardless of whether or not you like their playg style], would be heir apparent to Buddy's throne [fame-stature] as bandleader, perhaps [but neither have his personality for TV [img]wink.gif[/img] ]...my how times [& attitudes] have changed...
No, peeps wouild rather see Michael Moore, Angelina Jolie, Scott Peterson's or OJ's attorney, Madonna, Britney, Ashlee, some gangsta-thug rapper, or the Flave of da Weak. Oh, ShutTHU widdit, already.
Sheesh. [img]graemlins/sure.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/hmmm.gif[/img] ;c)
Buddy would line 'em all up & drill sargeant their arses 1 by 1. A little of his jiu-jitsu wouldn't hurt either. ;c)
Gotta love that allergy quote from Buddy [excluding contempo bluegrass, & a handful of great ballads, perhaps ;c) ]...that quote was the shizznit. &cD ;cP
<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ January 29, 2005 03:03 PM: Message edited by: fuseU1 ]</font>
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